radian battery settings
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radian battery settings
I had a Skybox for a year before Outback replaced it with a radian 8048
When I would force a charge it would go to the Absorb charge setting and stop charging, unless I had the absorb time set
If absorb time was 10 minutes it would reach Absorb and charge for 10 minutes
My radian if a force a charge it only charges to what I have the absorb time set too
if I set it for a hour it will go past the Absorb setting until the hour total charge time is reached
If I have Absorb time set for 15 minutes, it quits charging after 15 minutes and never reach Absorb charge setting
Doesn't seem normal to me
Thanks
When I would force a charge it would go to the Absorb charge setting and stop charging, unless I had the absorb time set
If absorb time was 10 minutes it would reach Absorb and charge for 10 minutes
My radian if a force a charge it only charges to what I have the absorb time set too
if I set it for a hour it will go past the Absorb setting until the hour total charge time is reached
If I have Absorb time set for 15 minutes, it quits charging after 15 minutes and never reach Absorb charge setting
Doesn't seem normal to me
Thanks
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Re: radian battery settings
The description seems odd indeed.
Perhaps post a screen shot of the Radian Battery Charger parameters?
Also, updating your profile with the current configuration and exact battery details would be helpful.
Seeing as there appears to be AC coupled inverters in the mix as well, describing how they are configured in the system may help get to the bottom of things.
Perhaps post a screen shot of the Radian Battery Charger parameters?
Also, updating your profile with the current configuration and exact battery details would be helpful.
Seeing as there appears to be AC coupled inverters in the mix as well, describing how they are configured in the system may help get to the bottom of things.
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Re: radian battery settings
Here are my Radian settings
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Re: radian battery settings
This application note https://outbackpower.com/downloads/docu ... radian.pdf describes some special programming that's needed when AC-coupling to a Radian. Maybe your answer is in there - I'm no Radian expert.
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Re: radian battery settings
I did the software update for AC coupling on the Mate3 and Radian
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Re: radian battery settings
A small point. The Absorb Time setting is in 0.1H increments, so 6 minutes, 12 minutes, 18 minutes, etc.if I set it for a hour it will go past the Absorb setting until the hour total charge time is reached
If I have Absorb time set for 15 minutes, it quits charging after 15 minutes and never reach Absorb charge setting
54V is pretty low charging target for a 16S LFP. Is this an attempt at a maximum state of charge around 75-80%?
The normal charge behavior is a Bulk (Constant Current) stage until the Absorb Voltage is reached at which point an Absorb (Constant Voltage) phase is executed for Absorb Time. The setting of Absorb Time has no impact on the Constant Current (Bulk) phase, however, the time to reach the Absorb Voltage can vary with battery State of Charge at the time the charge cycle begins.
Is there another charging source (e.g.: the AC coupled inverters) that is driving the battery voltage above the Absorb Voltage value?
Is the Radian calibrated to the battery voltage? (IIRC, the internal voltmeter resolution is +/-0.4V).
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Re: radian battery settings
It seems like mine stays in bulk for one minute than switches to absorb
From my event notification
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With Enphase Micro Inverters AC coupled to Radian - Location: Mn
Re: radian battery settings
It seems so
Ill raise the absorb to 56 and try charging again, and watch the process
The reason I messed with the absorb setting was because my BMS was bad it was dropping 2.5 volts across the solenoid randomly causing Radian to charge
And I didn't want to overcharge the batteries
I replaced the BMS Sunday
Ill raise the absorb to 56 and try charging again, and watch the process
The reason I messed with the absorb setting was because my BMS was bad it was dropping 2.5 volts across the solenoid randomly causing Radian to charge
And I didn't want to overcharge the batteries
I replaced the BMS Sunday
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Outback IBR3 battery enclosure
REC Alpha 440W panels - 2 arrays: each of 4 strings of 2 in series
2 Midnite Solar MNPV6 combiners w/20A DC disconnects.
Honda EU7000is gas fuel generator
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Re: radian battery settings
While charging, my LFP is at 75% @ 54V, and 99% @ 56V.
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Absorb Voltage: 56V
Absorb Time: 0.1H
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Absorb Voltage: 56V
Absorb Time: 0.1H
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- 8 (2x4) Evergreen 180's into one FM80 (2007/2020 - replaced MX60)
- 6 (2×3) ALEO S79-300's into one FM80 (2017)
- 2 grid-tied VFXR3524A-01's series stacked, replaced GVFX's (2020)
- 12 Surrette/Rolls 2V x 1766Ah (2007)
- Hub10.3, Mate3s, FNDC, RTS. Tigo ES maximizers on each PV module.
Westinghouse Solar - Barn roof: (2012)
- 30 (2x15) 235W panels with Enphase M215 microinverters, grid-tied
Outback Skybox - Barn roof: (2019)
- 14 Talesun 275W in series (DC array input to SB inverter/charger)
- 3 SimpliPhi 3.8 batteries, 48V, 225Ah total
- AC coupled input from 14 Talesun 275W, Enphase M215 microinverters
Battery systems operate in grid-tied, net metering w/backup mode
All self-designed and self-installed - Location: Chagrin Falls, Ohio
Re: radian battery settings
This is off topic and it certainly looks like Raysun has you covered, but I just had to ask, are you using a relay to disconnect your microinverter array in order to control battery charging? Because a Radian set up for AC-coupling will do that for you without the need for a relay. Just sayin'...
The reason I messed with the absorb setting was because my BMS was bad it was dropping 2.5 volts across the solenoid randomly causing Radian to charge
And I didn't want to overcharge the batteries
https://ei.tigoenergy.com/p/pZXn7SZQyO45
https://enlighten.enphaseenergy.com/public/systems/Hctc107221
https://enlighten.enphaseenergy.com/public/systems/Hctc107221