Mate3s interoperability

Mate3 and Mate3s communications devices for Outback Power
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allen.struck
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My RE system: SRNE 12/24/36/48V 60 Charge controller
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Csun 305W PV module

Mate3s interoperability

Post by allen.struck »

Hello,

Does anyone know if the mate3s is compatible with "no name" brand components? IE I have a SRNE Charge controller I would like to connect so that I can see the Solar power my system is generating. I'm thinking I may have to buy a mate 10 hub but don't want to go thru that expense if it wont work. My set up is:
SRNE 48V Charge controller (it is auto sensing for voltage)
Outback 3648 inverter
Csun 305W PV modules
Energetech 100AH Li-ion battery 48V

Allen
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My RE system: 8330 watts in three strings, Flexmax 60 x 3, Radian 8048A, GSLC load center, Mate 3S, Hub 10.3, FN-DC and 900 Amp, 48V Trojan T105-RE battery bank.

Re: Mate3s interoperability

Post by pss »

Nope. Outback Power components work together as an integrated system and do not play well with third party hardware. The Outback system forms it's own intranet for communications through the Outback Hub using the Mate 3S as the programmable screen for the user and installer. Once all components are connected, they can be programmed by the Mate 3S and will function even if the Mate 3S is not present. They can also be remotely monitored and programmed via the internet using the Optics RE monitoring system. This adds a lot of value to Outback components. Your charge controller will have to live and function in isolation, unaware of anything going on around it in the PV world.
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Re: Mate3s interoperability

Post by raysun »

allen.struck wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 11:46 am Hello,

Does anyone know if the mate3s is compatible with "no name" brand components? IE I have a SRNE Charge controller I would like to connect so that I can see the Solar power my system is generating. I'm thinking I may have to buy a mate 10 hub but don't want to go thru that expense if it wont work. My set up is:
SRNE 48V Charge controller (it is auto sensing for voltage)
Outback 3648 inverter
Csun 305W PV modules
Energetech 100AH Li-ion battery 48V

Allen
See @pss's answer.

Though the Mate won't communicate with non-OB equipment, what is likely beneficial is a good 'current counting' battery monitor. OB has the FNDC, but a cheaper, and arguably better solution for lithium batteries, is the Victron series.

If you use a smart phone with Bluetooth, this little unit is a slick solution: https://www.amazon.com/Victron-SmartShu ... 0856PHNLX/

Otherwise, the BMV7xx series comes with a meter face to monitor and adjust the unit.
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Now using 48 volt 425 AH Narada Lithium cells and 1 250 Amp 48 VOLT DALY BMS.
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https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07FGF ... UTF8&psc=1
This meter is cheap and works great.
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Outback IBR3 battery enclosure
REC Alpha 440W panels - 2 arrays: each of 4 strings of 2 in series
Honda EU7000is gas fuel generator

Re: Mate3s interoperability

Post by raysun »

jbakker wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 7:29 pm https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07FGF ... UTF8&psc=1
This meter is cheap and works great.
The Chinese Victron clones should do well enough for most purposes.
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