Meter Change

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jbakker
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1 Midnite Classic 150, FNDC. I have the Volt battery but it's not being used.
Now using 48 volt 425 AH Narada Lithium cells and 1 250 Amp 48 VOLT DALY BMS.
Location: Goderich Ontario Canada

Meter Change

Post by jbakker »

My daughter called me at work today and said the power company is here and they are changing the meter.

I'm like ok, I will call them and ask them why?

Lady I talked to said Billing requested a meter change as the meter must not be working :grin:

Said I only used 69 Kwh last month.

I told her you might want to make a note in your file for billing as I have 90 percent of the house on solar panels.

So now I have a nice new shiny meter on my house.
:???:
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Re: Meter Change

Post by raysun »

😆😆😆😆

All good as long as the they didn't put an electronic thumb on the scale.
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- 2 grid-tied VFXR3524A-01's series stacked, replaced GVFX's (2020)
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Re: Meter Change

Post by Mike Curran »

Where I live in Ohio you have to apply for a net metering permit to connect your PV output to the grid. The utility uses your inverter's power rating to assess your potential feed-in, so they have it on record. In my case, my first install was only 1.44kw but with 2 GVFX3624's, they way over-estimated my output to grid, and I had to correct their misconception.

Anyway, doesn't your jurisdiction have a similar net metering permit process?
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raysun
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Re: Meter Change

Post by raysun »

Anyway, doesn't your jurisdiction have a similar net metering permit process?
The question refers to the State and County of Hawaii, right? 😁

Like most every 3rd World country of the modern era, we have every rule, regulation, burocracy and agency one could imagine. One would also need to imagine them functioning, too.

Seriously, the State of Hawaii has one of the most ambitious renewable energy policies in the U.S. and Hawaii Island (the County of Hawaii) started out with one of the most progressive Net Metering programs anywhere. Early adopters were paid retail rates as feed-in tariffs - an average of $0.32 / kWH.

That spurred an amazing amount of rooftop solar. With it the inevitable reality that the electric grids were ill-equipped to handle it.

We could have gotten in on phase 2 of the modified Net Metering, but decided we just didn't want the hassle.
Mike Curran
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My RE system: Outback - Garage roof:
- 8 (2x4) Evergreen 180's into one FM80 (2007/2020 - replaced MX60)
- 6 (2×3) ALEO S79-300's into one FM80 (2017)
- 2 grid-tied VFXR3524A-01's series stacked, replaced GVFX's (2020)
- 12 Surrette/Rolls 2V x 1766Ah (2007)
- Hub10.3, Mate3s, FNDC, RTS. Tigo ES maximizers on each PV module.

Westinghouse Solar - Barn roof: (2012)
- 30 (2x15) 235W panels with Enphase M215 microinverters, grid-tied

Outback Skybox - Barn roof: (2019)
- 14 Talesun 275W in series (DC array input to SB inverter/charger)
- 3 SimpliPhi 3.8 batteries, 48V, 225Ah total
- AC coupled input from 14 Talesun 275W, Enphase M215 microinverters

All self-designed and self-installed
Location: Chagrin Falls, Ohio

Re: Meter Change

Post by Mike Curran »

Sorry, I was asking the OP, who lives in Canada.
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https://enlighten.enphaseenergy.com/public/systems/Hctc107221
raysun
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Outback IBR3 battery enclosure
REC Alpha 440W panels - 2 arrays: each of 4 strings of 2 in series
Honda EU7000is gas fuel generator

Re: Meter Change

Post by raysun »

Oops! Sorry.

🙄
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Re: Meter Change

Post by sbrownian »

But the State charges for Geo steam, right?
Information, you get not; if incorrect question, you ask..
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Re: Meter Change

Post by ralphday224 »

"Lady I talked to said Billing requested a meter change as the meter must not be working"

That same thing happened to me when I went back on grid in 2010. Had a microFit installed and a 100 amp service for the home. A limit of 10kw per connection point (transformer in my yard) meant we couldn't net meter the house system. The first 2 months we used no Hydro One power at all. I looked out and saw the "meter guy" I'd met before putting in a new meter since there was no power metered since installation. We both got a chuckle out of that.

Now I'm at about 200 plus KWHr per ;month, depending on heating and cooling. Much more comfortable with a heat pump to cool (like now) or heat a bit, like in January.
jbakker
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My RE system: 2 VFX3648 Inverters 1 FM60 150VDC Charge Controllers Mate3 3.4 KW of panels 15kw JC Onan NG Generator made in 1975.
1 Midnite Classic 150, FNDC. I have the Volt battery but it's not being used.
Now using 48 volt 425 AH Narada Lithium cells and 1 250 Amp 48 VOLT DALY BMS.
Location: Goderich Ontario Canada

Re: Meter Change

Post by jbakker »

I applied years ago to put about 8 kW on my roof and do the Micro-Fit program.
The rate they paid was .80 cents a Kwh. So a good return on your investment.
Had the financing ready and the Power company came back and said there is not enough capacity in your neighbourhood to handle that power. :eek: I said you're full of shit. I know your full of shit cause you just upgraded the lines, transformers 2 years ago and I know for a fact that I am connected to the upgrades you did.
I never went any further as they were not happy I called them out. They did not want to deal with the Program. Not a single house in Goderich got approved for the Microfit Program and there were at least over 100 applications to the Power company. Did not want to bother with it.

So needless to say I do not feed the grid. I make my own use my own and when I use grid power.
I was wondering how long it would take them to notice I was using less and less as I added more solar and moved more loads off the Grid panel to Inverter Panel.
:razz:
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